Fact checking Yglesias

Making an otherwise excellent point, Matt writes:

The Democratic presidential candidates each have a global warming proposal. What's more, they all actually have very similar proposals, featuring different quantitative degrees of ambitiousness in terms of where they want to set the carbon cap in a cap-and-trade system.

Well sort of. Climate change is actually one of the issues on which the leading candidates differ fairly notably. Readers--the few, the brave, the beloved--are probably sick and tired by now of hearing about how impressive the Edwards, Dodd, and Richardson plans are and about how Barack Obama has no ascertainable energy vision. Hillary Clinton, it turns out, is equally vague.

From the Obama website:

Obama is an original cosponsor of legislation to establish limits on greenhouse gas emissions. To remain below these limits, the bill encourages the market to determine how best to reduce greenhouse gases, rewarding cost-effective approaches through a system of tradeable allowances. Revenues generated from this program will be directed to helping industries and individuals most affected by the limits, and also to fund research and development of new, more efficient, energy technologies.

He's talking about the McCain-Lieberman bill here--two names which, for obvious reasons, he's a little bit hesitant to mention. It's a fairly strong bill. But his commitment to it to this point hasn't been, shall we say, overwhelming.

Likewise, Clinton's website says:

Hillary recognizes that global climate change is one of the most pressing moral issues of our time. She supports policies to reduce carbon emissions and other pollution that contribute to global warming.

In the White House, Hillary will lead the charge to stop global warming by investing in clean energy technologies, establishing a national market-based program to reduce global warming pollution, increasing our fuel efficiency, and restoring the United States' rightful place as a leader in international efforts to address the problem of climate change.

Nobody yet knows the details of this program and, given her ties to industry, there's reason to suspect that it won't be as robust as it should be. Under normal circumstances this type of variation (and occasional vagueness) wouldn't be much of a problem. But if you believe (as I do) that climate change is a looming calamity, then it's not unfair to expect more out of the two Democratic frontrunners than we've yet seen.

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The talk in DC on global warming is pretty stale, and expectations that anything serious is going to get done before 2009 at the earliest is fantasy. No one wants to make this an election issue of substance.

Last night, I was reading my regular dose of Science News (a weekly non-profit magazine published since 1921), and this article deeply depressed me (because so much more is known than is being discussed in the public arena):

Considering how much trouble two people have deciding what movie to see, the most remarkable thing about a new set of global-climate predictions may be that it exists at all. More than one hundred nations belong to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and for the panel to speak, the representatives of all those nations have to agree.

Over the course of this year, the panel will issue a comprehensive report on the state of science concerning climate change, updating the panel's 2001 analysis. The new report, the IPCC's fourth, divides climate science into three areas: the physical processes, their effects, and what people could do about it. Three working groups of hundreds of scientists specializing in the relevant topics have been laboring for 5 years to draft the technical chapters for the epic document.
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Climate change isn't just about the future anymore. The summary begins by emphasizing a flood of new evidence documenting the effects that climate change has already produced.

That's evidence "from all continents and most oceans," says the summary. Numerous studies show glaciers melting, permafrost warming, birds nesting earlier in the year, leaf buds popping sooner, fish migrations changing, animals shifting their ranges, and many more events in nature going askew. The summary highlights 75 long-term studies documenting significant biological and physical changes in nature. Of the 29,000 sets of observations in those studies, 89 percent show a shift in the direction predicted for the effects of global warming. "We're no longer hand-waving with models," said Martin Parry of the United Kingdom's Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, cochair of the IPCC impacts group, as he unveiled the consensus summary.

Anybody want to guess what the Repub and Dem candidates will have to say about this before the election?

Posted by: JimPortlandOR on June 26, 2007 12:43 PM

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