Contempt realism

Jim:

Conyers/Dems could go direct to inherent contempt. But it looks like they want to lay the foundation by having the DoJ refuse to prosecute first. Step by step seems to be the process.

The inherent contempt thing gets very messy if they vote contempt and send the Sgt. at Arms to the WH - undoubtedly to be refused access. If they don't send the Sgt. at Arms, the citation is just posturing that does nothing substantative.

On the other hand, Congress can't be eager to have a court intervene either because that will lead to appeals and the SCOTUS could conclude (5-4) that Bush's broad claims are legal or can't be litigated by the courts. Both results mean that Congress has permanently lost power unless the courts indicate that Congress could strengthen the law (or choose a different means of prosecuting the contempt - a special counsel for instance), which would mean overriding a Bush veto which is very unlikely.

Basically, if the Congress can't override a veto they are toothless and castrated (a bad combo even for a dog). This is the way a constitutional republic ends up being a autocracy, and we are on the road heading that direction. Lots of speed bumps along the way however.

My guess is that this doesn't get resolved in Bush's term of office. A stalemate. It would take a very unusual President after Bush to sign bills that weaken their office permanently.

I'm very pessimistic on this. I don't see a way to reign-in Bush since that would involve the Senate and House Republicans turning away from Bush, and they have already proved they like being enablers of Executive overreach.

Sadly this sounds all too likely. Messy or not, though, I think that if Democratic leaders really believe so much is at stake--both in the remaining months of the Bush presidency and looking forward to future imperial presidencies--then sending the Sergeant at Arms to the White House with handcuffs is actually the reasoned, prudent thing to do.

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You betcha. The Dems need backbone, even if they fail. The country must have the raw power of the executive put in front of them - even if the media blames the Dems for spraying fuel on the fire.

Maybe the people will see through the Bush propaganda and give us a US Senate that won't enable a dictator. Maybe.

Posted by: JimPortlandOR on July 23, 2007 01:12 PM

I am pretty sure the inherent contempt precedents are solid law. Vote for contempt, have DoJ refuse to prosecute, and then, rather than enjoin the DoJ, just send the Sgt-at-Arms to seize Harriet Miers.

Posted by: Nicholas Beaudrot on July 23, 2007 02:01 PM

Nick: Bush can have the secret service refuse admittance to the Sgt. at Arms. Miers won't be seized. Then what?

Posted by: JimPortlandOR on July 23, 2007 03:06 PM

Branch Dravidian-style showdown!

Posted by: Brian on July 23, 2007 03:27 PM

Why to the White House? Why not to Bolten's residence, in a fleet of unmarked Capitol Police cars running silent, at 3:30 in the morning?

Posted by: Greg Greene on July 23, 2007 04:53 PM

heh heh. a snatch and pop operation, huh Greg?

Where's Janet Reno when you need her?

What a great action movie we could make. DC buses and garbage trucks lined up around the WH compound. Red Cross pleading to take food to the captives. Bush patrolling the perimeter on his bike. Cheney in the basement burning papers from his safe. Press and traffic copters preventing Marine One from taking off.

Get me Hollywoood on line two.

Posted by: JimPortlandOR on July 23, 2007 05:00 PM

You know, I think if Harriet Miers gets cited for inherent contempt, she'll have no problem hanging out at the White House indefinitely. Bolten seems more like he has a regular life that he'd have a hard time leaving behind...

Posted by: Brian on July 23, 2007 05:29 PM

Why make it a showdown at the White House, Bush's domestic Green Zone? I think Brian has it right. Nab the scofflaws at home, on their way to work, or out on the golf course.

If the Congress doesn't stand up for its rights soon Bush's destruction of the Constitution will be just that much closer to completion.

Posted by: Rob_in_Hawaii on July 23, 2007 10:36 PM

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