I have recently noticed that a lot of the DC social scene “heavy hitters” went to very bad colleges. How does membership in the capital club, the young and the guest list, etc. look upon this problem?
It's been several days now since I posted anything particularly hilarious from the Forum at Late Night Shots. So as a bit of lazy Sunday blogging here's something. Shirley Tilghman wants to know what's up with all the stupid people:
College Degrees Not Correlated with DC Social Status
Posted By: Shirley Tilghman on 11-30-2006 4:18 pm Report as shockingly offensiveI have recently noticed that a lot of the DC social scene “heavy hitters” went to very bad colleges. How does membership in the capital club, the young and the guest list, etc. look upon this problem?
RE: College Degrees Not Correlated with DC Social Status
Posted By: well... on 11-30-2006 4:19 pm Report as shockingly offensive…as someone who went to a terrible undergrad and better graduate school, it quite simply is because people who go to better schools are, more or less, complete social retards.
RE: College Degrees Not Correlated with DC Social Status
Posted By: Shirley Tilghman on 11-30-2006 4:21 pm Report as shockingly offensiveYeah, all those Vandy/UNC/Georgetown/Princeton grads are complete social retards.
Next!
It goes on from there, as you'll see below the fold. This is a totally odd accounting of things given that DC is the city with the highest average IQ in the country. Why just last night I heard a "heavy hitter" (female) utter the following witticism: "I don't care how great Liberace is, I have to piss like whoa." I think she must be on LNS.
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they don’t care how smart the members are, it is more about how much money their family has
If you have the money and the connections, you can get your kid in about anywhere or at least a school with a little tradition. Some of these schools are a joke.
…oh, by not terrible colleges i assumed you were talking only about Princeton/Harvard/Yale/Stanford.
its not true of everyone who goes there, but a more competitive academic environment certainly breeds more social awkwardness.
and are we really putting Vandy and UNC on the same plane as Gtown and Princeton?
i mean, i don’t compare my Mortons steaks to McDonalds, but this is your post…
It’s like when interviewing people for entry level admin or LA jobs in the past, I always eliminate anyone who had above a 3.5 or so…unless they went to a party school with crappy academics…
some people would say that UNC is pretty hard to get into out of state
other people would say that if its that hard, go to a better school if you’re going to pay out of state tuition.
And I hear it’s a bitch out of country.
I’m confused, Vanderbilt, UNC and Gtown are all pretty much on the same level.
I got into all three and went to Carolina.
Let’s not forget UVa, here…
People who say you can’t drink your face off and still go to a top 25 school clearly aren’t working with much.
ok snob. some people may not want to go to a private school. just because it is public, does not mean it isn’t a good school.
UNC isn’t close to being at the same level as Princeton,Duke,Harvard,Yale etc.. It’s a public school for godsakes.
Man sorry those Harvard and Yale grads are something else. They really know how to party.
Public school is for jerks and lesbians.
No one said we were, but we are a top 30 school with an unusually socially competent student body, similar to Vandy and UVa. Georgetown has a bunch of odd cats, and that “b-frat” is the gayest thing in town.
well my dad makes more money than your dad
You’re all Homo’s. Stop arguing over “levels,” It’s Ivy League and not Ivy League.
If it warrants mentioning…Cornell can suck a bag of dicks for their party scene.
well my dad makes more money than your dad
Roanoke College? Hampden Sydney? Salve Regina? Are we talking ~1000 SATs here?
Duke and Harvard are aweful. I would rather my kid go somewhere moderately fun over those prisons. Any good school has plenty of academic opportunites.
potted ivy’s?
Question, I agree. I laugh at people who think they’re going anywhere with degrees from there. If they have EXTREMELY good family connections, they might be okay. Otherwise, the whole 900-1000 on the SATs is going to hold them back.
I’ll sleep happily on 9 out of 10 Ivy league girls.
…i must agree with the Duke/Harvard guy. Stanford was the most horrible place on the planet for 1) bars, 2) attractive women, or 3) anything remotely resembling a decent party.
people can do well no matter where they go.
I got a 990.
this argument will never ever win
i mean end. obviously i went to a great college right?
“You’re all Homo’s. Stop arguing over “levels,” It’s Ivy League and not Ivy League.
If it warrants mentioning…Cornell can suck a bag of dicks for their party scene.”
…From the guy who couldn’t get into a top 50 school.
who cares? i went to a decent school and have a better job than a lot of these clowns that went to supposedly better schools, do.
For those of you who are saying that the top schools will ruin you socially, what exactly are you proposing? Seems like UNC, Vandy, UVa would be your solution. But somehow I doubt you went to those schools either b/c grads from those schools generally aren’t so bitter about the Ivy League.
Try top 10000.
Perchance “Name isn’t all…” has a point. and a good one.
anyone who seriously looks down on any well-off southerner for attending unc-chapel hill instead of some fucking miserable northeastern ivy that we all got into anyway is off his/her rocker.
you, don’t, know grammar though.
College is over, move on. No one really cares where you went. But if your not hot - get lost
I know college is the end all-be all of life, but if you look at the vast majority of people who are in very high up positions in government and business, they didn’t come out of Roanoke College and Hampden Sydney. The whole “I am cooler than the UNC nerd” just doesn’t hold water.
At the expense of taking a literal turn, and therefore forgoing any humor for the rest of this post-what about *gasp* people that worked their asses off, starved a little, and put themselves through college?
Can anyone tell me why we don’t like them?
That’s the only reason I would snub my nose at anyone…
I have a lot of respect for people who did that. Who said anything about disliking people who paid their way thru college?
Your level of education is shining through your post when you compared McDonalds to Vandy & UNC and GTown & Princeton to Morton’s. No offense but Vandy is ranked higher than UNC and Gtown…
Regardless, any school in the top 50 is a great school.
Community College = McDonalds
State Colleges (not counting UNC, UVA, or something similar) = Red Lobster
Top 50 School = Morton’s
Are you all seriously arguing over the implications your college has on your post-collegiate social life?
If one has means they should:
A) go to a top prep school
B) matriculate at a top 25 university or attend a lesser known college in hopes of boosting their GPA to attend a top grad school
C) attend grad school at any level
The middling sort, this is a generalization, attend the local day school, then graduate to second tier college to play sports–ie peak on the lax field at age 20, then move to DC and act like a badass as they choke back on their lipper because they really just do it to be cool, not because they are addicted.
Some of you are idiots, I wish there were pics next to your posts so when you finally make it my office hoping for a job I can through your ass out.
I’m sorry Kirk, we couldn’t all go to Gudger College!
We are wondering how prestige and tangible accomplishments seem to diverge for a period of time in one’s early to late 20’s.
Some of you are idiots, I wish there were pics next to your posts so when you finally make it my office hoping for a job I can through your ass out.
you went to a top prep school, and didn’t get into a top 25 or good liberal arts school, you should just give up. Top prep schools + connections should get you in anywhere decent if you aren’t a total idiot.
“Regardless, any school in the top 50 is a great school.”
Whoa whoa whoa…..we all know there is a HUGE dropoff after the top 25, maybe top 30.
you are going to “through” my ass out? what does that even mean? you’re an idiot!
when i finally make it your office hoping for a job, i will give you one billion dollars if you can show me how you can actually through my ass, as that’s something my ass, along with every other tangible object in the entire history of the world, has never had done to it!
some of us can get into good schools without our parents pulling strings!
I had a weighted 3.3 at prep school and a 1360 on the sat’s and got in pretty much anywhere I wanted. It’s not difficult.
(with no connections, sports, etc)
Obviously we’re all young professionals working on/about the hill and we’re going to run this country some day.
Lord help the little man.
“Mr. Keating”
Did you at least pay full tuition?
ALL of us are not working on/about the hill. thank god
i mean excuse
“exuse me” I think he was joking.
not going to even bother finishing this posting.. people in capital club coming from money.. not true. simply like to dress preppy and have friends on the hill/in a specific group of friends. lots of dc heavy hitters.. 35+ and supporting only themselves.. obviosly not an issue of where they went to school/making real money.
You know what is lamer than being in the capital club? Sitting around making fun of it. It’s kind of like the people who “hate” Smith Point because they can’t get in the door.
I’m not in the cap club and it’s not my thing, but I completely agree with you. good point.
I’ve never actually tried to get into Smith Point - just aware that it’s vaguely somewhere in Georgetown. Haven’t had much use for the Georgetown bar scene since I graduated from GW.
not making fun of it. just saying it has nothing to do with money.
and anyone can get into sp these days..
#1 small public, #6 public, #30 overall
name it…
#6 public, #30 overall? Doesn’t exist.
William & Mary
william and mary is public? michigan?
William and Mary it is… but it’s more like William and Gary with all those homos running around.
Private schools breed social ineptitude. They’re for people who didn’t have fun in high school and are looking for even less fun in college. Nowadays, it doesn’t matter where the hell you went, it matters what you do w/ what you’ve got. Most of the Yalies I know do nothing w/ their lives b/c they think the fact that they “went” to an Ivy league school entitles them to handouts. I could have gone to Cornell, but realized how terrible my life would be for 4 years. I pity the fool.
We’re back to the “you’re better off going to a bad school” ideology.
Where is this “bad school” train of thought coming from?? Just b/c your school has ivy in its nickname does that mean that you will necessarily learn more?? I don’t think so. You get the total package at a public school. Beer, Bitches, and Books. Besides the books, you only learn how to bedwet, drink Zima, and play Warcraft at the “better” school.
bed wetting is cool that was discussed in a previous forum
Bedwetting is for little crybabies. Pissing yourself while asleep is for boozehounds.
You get the “full package” at UNC, Vandy and UNC. That is it. And if you know what you’re doing, you can do fine with chicks at Princeton, Dartmouth and plenty of other top tier schools. Going to some mediocre state school is not the “full package.” So many rationalizations about why it’s “better” to go to a non top 25 school…
Make that “UNC, Vandy and UVA”
JMU and VaTech. gross
UNC is MUCH harder to get into than Duke, both in and out of state. Duke is not an Ivy league school, so don’t include it in the same company as Harvard and Princeton.
I have to say, I do not agree. But hey, I guess you’ve never experienced college. Sucks for you….Maybe next life.
There are some cool people at HSC and some dorks. There are some cool people at Harvard and there are some dorks. There are some cool people at Smith Point and there are, yet again, some dorks.
How quickly we forget, that even within our own fraternities at university, there were those with whom we enjoyed partying and those from whom we would run to the hills.
I went to what you would consider a pure party school for undergrad and a good but not top tier law school. Still, I’m killing it in DC. Not everyone I went to school with is doing the same.
It’s all what you make of it.
judge joe — but you made up for it and went to a top tier law school. that is entirely different.
unc is not harder to get into than duke in state.
Mr. T, I graduated from UNC with a 3.7 and a serious drinking problem. I’m shocked how some people are still of the high school mindset that getting good grades is “not cool.”
Full Package, I congratulate you. I completely agree w/ getting good grades. But I also advocate, like you, getting drunk and doing faceplants, going to football/basketball games, pissing yourself at a bar, waking up to an orgy in your bed..you know, college! haha.
I am out. Will be back on tomorrow.
Let’s be honest, Duke is tougher to get into than UNC irrespective of most circumstances. Suggesting either in- or out-of-state admissions is comparable is a stretch.
UNC is extremely hard to get into out of state, moreso than schools like UVa. But I imagine Duke is still harder.
I went to Yale and make 34k a year. I could have gone to Bridgewater College for this salary.
It’s due to the fact that people who went to good colleges tend to be a few steps up on most of the aforementioned ‘heavy hitters’ and don’t need to be the center of attention for self actualization.
Generally most of the social scene ‘heavy hitters’ are losers in more categories than just college attended.
Advertising takedowns is a sign of weakness. Nobody ever knows the true takedown champs, and they like it that way.
Of the schools on that initial list, Vanderbilt is ranked second after Princeton in US News most recent undergraduate rankings.
Oh, Vanderbilt, let us all get down on our knees and pray to the “daddy wrote a check and I scored well on my SAT’s” Not a bad school, but come on for Christ’s sake. Then again what do I know, I am a but turbo that attended Syracuse…or VT or Strayer for grad school..
“I went to Yale and make 34k a year. I could have gone to Bridgewater College for this salary.”
From the tables down at Mory’s,
To the place where Louie dwells,
And the dear, old Temple Bar we love so well,
Sing the Whiffenpoofs assembled,
With their glasses raised on high!
And the magic of their singing, casts a spell.
i dropped out of GMU to start a software company…
Who said Vandy was a good school? And don’t get me started on trincoll.edu\countryclub.htm
Fact check: U.S. News ranks Vanderbilt #18 on their 2007 Top National Universities ahead of Georgetown and UVA! I guess because it is not North of the Mason Dixon Line it does not qualify as a good school? You’re crazy.
8===D–Last time I checked Tennessee was South of the M-D Line.
Drunk response–please disregard the previous post
What if… you all are absolutely f’n absurd, and yes, I went to a great school, have money, make money, have connetions, f*ck like a champ, and get after it on a regular basis. You all bore me.
do NOT ever steal my monicker. you probably went to some shitty school too. think of your own name
Hey real deal…did you go to Indiana??
Indiana? where’s that?
I could not agree more - my suspicion is that most of the people on this post are still less than a year removed from college. Take it from me, who knows both people that went to Ivies and those that went to Hampden-Sydney/Roanoke/Rollins, etc- they all do pretty damn well and are respected around DC because of their accomplishments and ability, not simply their alma mater. Your callous black and white mentality is a true sign of your age and inexperience.
you are all morons.
C’mon, it’s just a conversation piece and something you have in common with others.
What really matters…
guys - have some money, some looks, and some wit
girls - be a good piece of tail for guys
don’t kid yourselves to think that having attended yale/duke/harvard/etc. doesn’t put you leaps and bounds above any kid that went to roanoke/rollins/etc. the better schools thrive on hiring/helping their alumni and it has been this way forever. it opens more doors than anyone’s “accomplishments and abilities.” Period.
Get real has it right. Who runs this country (and ostensibly the world)? Yale alums. With a few Harvard, Princeton, Duke etc thrown in the mix.
get real, are you hot or not?
there is no chance
“they all do pretty damn well and are respected around DC because of their accomplishments and ability”
Everyone you know is respected around DC because of their accomplishments AND their ability? What in the world are talking about.
no lns self promotion, please
UNC is a public school. I can’t believe that people are trying to justify their ECU/UNC experience by comparing UNC to Duke. There is no comparison. We should start a board for people who went to private schools.
what in the world are talking about?
I agree…anyone who argues that UNC is as hard to get into as Duke clearly has the reasoning ability of someone who went to UNC…a PUBLIC school
what in the world are talking about?
No one cares about schools. I went to a mediocre school but have a lot of DC connections and make lots of money. That correlates to takedown central. Sorry losers.
Businessweek just featured an article about how, based on all CEO’s of public companies in the U.S., the overwhelming majority went to state universities and other “lesser known” schools. The reason Harvard, etc had less? They are poor managers, and do not know how to effectively deal with people. I foresee many on this post facing the same fate.
Referring to how someone said they know people who went to all types of colleges and “all of them do pretty damn well.” Are we back to suggesting it doesn’t matter what college you went to? I guess I would be surprised if someone who went to a good school wrote that.
so maybe we should all just go to terrible schools if we want to get on the fast track to becoming the next great ceo.
we report, you decide
If you want a party school and great academics, there are a few great options. Why don’t you just go to UNC, then you could stop making all of these rationalizations.
See you at the Players Club!
this is such a lame thread… i cant even stand to see its title on the main page anymore.
get rid of it please
What is up with all the Carolina/public school haters? Why on earth would anyone from North Carolina want to throw their money away to go to some private Northern school with a bunch of obnoxious Yankees with bad accents and hair gel, when we can get the same education in state for a tenth of the cost?
enough already with this thread…who cares anymore
Duke sucks. I would rather go to Arkansas or Illinois than Duke. Why on earth would you put yourself through the misery of going to that place?
many of you are confusing “correlation” and “causation”.
Correlation: Statistics. the degree to which two or more attributes or measurements on the same group of elements show a tendency to vary together.
Causation:the action of causing or producing
Going to a good college definately HELPS acheive success (correlation) but it doesnt guarantee (causation)
Likewise, going to a “lesser ranked” school is usually correlated with less sucess, but not always.
Did we really learn anything at college anyways? besides how to take a massive GB rip or how to hit the ski slopes until noon the next day while aggesively taking down ex GF\’s roomate. At least thats what we did at UGA playas! holla
and anybody who thinks that they actually learned hat much valuable information is fulla crap! I got into many good schools but went to UGA for the fun, not b/c they had the best selection of periodicals in their library. oohhh you gat served!
get back to work
Man, I had a lot of respect for Georgia until I read that post. That was aweful.
it was a bad hungover joke dick, lighten up…
sarcasm doesn\’t translate well sometimes
To fulla crap — people from good colleges are arguing exactly that. What is funny is that people from bad colleges are coming back with the same argument suggesting that there is a correlation between being a ceo and going to a lesser college. It’s funny to watch.
UGA ROCKS - best orgies ever!
There needs to be a post for all the returds on this site dedicated to stressing that definitely is not spelled definately
why does everyone hate Duke so much?
my sentiments exactly
Forget CEO’s. Take a look at the US Forbes 400 - granted some didn’t go to college at all, but most others were in the top 25.
Duke is awful, christian lattiner sucks off coach K for crack money while wojo videotapes
Orgies - hahahhaha, you speak truth.
get rid of this thread
Duke is terrible. I dont mind their teams, but their student body is miserable. Again I ask why on Earth would you go there, except maybe to play basketball for Coach K?
why wouldn’t you go there? great school
Better yet why would anyone go to Maryland? What a shit hole.
I went there assclown and it was great. While I was there we won the National Championship in Basketball and won the ACC in football. I have been a Maryland fan my whole life so that’s why I went there.
To the discerning Terp: which was a better riot- the Final Four loss in 2001, the National Championship win in 2002, or the Lady Terp victory in 2006?
Is Maryland the school where they burn couches using shaved mullet hair as kindling when they win football games?
that is WVU but same thing really.
Def Final Four Loss in 2001, it was the first, the biggest and the longest. After that they all pretty much sucked becuase there were cops on horses with tear gas. I hear National Championship was pretty good, but I wouldn’t know I was courtside at the game.
This is in response to a much earlier posting by ‘Please.’ The post says “Duke and Harvard are aweful. I would rather my kid go somewhere moderately fun over those prisons. Any good school has plenty of academic opportunites.”
CUZ I WOULD RATHER MY KID GO TO A SCHOOL WHERE THEY TEACH YOU HOW TO SPELL AWFUL!!!!! Ahahahahaha. Check yourself before you wreck yourself. People don’t hate Duke and Harvard… they are jealous.
Did you really just put an entire sentence in caps for the incorrect spelling of awful.
Like the previous poster said, Duke and Harvard prisons. The students are inmates who jump at the chance to correct spelling.
Add to the fact that you’re like hours late.
Take a lap.
I am not a spelling Nazi…. But such blatant hypocricy deserves a call out. And sorry I don’t spend every second of the work day reading late night shots. Please forgive my tardniness. The clever little prison analogy is totally relevant… cuz you get sodomized in the shower at Duke and Harvard and pay $40,000 to go to jail.
The amount of money you spend on your education is NOT a correlation to the quality of your education. The examples are endless.
Whatever they’re both good schools but the point was many of the kids who go there (not for sports) are wound up so damn tight.
Grad school now that’s a different story.
THERE IS SOME CORRELATION BUT IT IS NOT CAUSAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHRIST
if this thread doesn’t end I’m going to throw my computer out the window.
WHO CARES!?!?!?!
i agree but if you are going to argue it at least try to use the correct teriminology
calling someone out for spelling and then misspelling hypocrisy? That’s funny.
Listen here Rook. Before you start coming on this site and singing the praises out of order and start nerding up the place with statistical sampling definitions, check your ego at the door.
We hire and fire, Ivy league kids because once they get out and no one is spoon feeding them information they’re useless.
Do your self a favor and lay off the caffenine and caps key.
You got me there. I suck. Now I’m just laughing at myself.
HAHAHA go grab some bench
so you would prefer to have a ‘debate’ where you use terms that have the complete opposite definition of what you mean? that ’s totally logical. my mistake.
i think you could have benefited from some spoon feeding yourself
Although your vain attempt at self deprecation was meant to be funny it wasn’t.
Hopefully we can finally close this post remember we are out of college.
it wasn’t meant to be funny- just highlight the ridiculousness of whatever you were trying to get across
‘debate’ on an LNS forum. Are you kidding me?
Spend time on it first. Read, learn and then wait your turn before you start shooting off some nonsense.
I’m out of here.
I was simply conceiting my own error. Stop taking yourself and this stupid forum so seriously. If you really wanted to end this post you would not have kept reading it.
please, quit while you’re behind. By the way, it is “concede” not “conceit.” I realize that this is just a messageboard, but there is a difference between misspelling a word and not even knowing the right word to use.
I am not taking this forum seriously- I was saying that in jest.
Are you going to continue to try and explain yourself? Call it a day and try again next week.
to “to haha”
you have to give it up. you just cant teach an old dog new tricks.
Get me out of this office/ prison. It reminds me of my year at Duke.
Mitch, I built Speaker City from the ground up. I barely even know how to read. True Story.
How has the hipster infiltration affected the collective educational pedigree of the site?
Lots of turbs at Arizona State, hipsters ar Brown
people on the scene of have crappy or no jobs
… and don’t forget about degrees from mediocre school
the degrees from the polytech schools
bitter hipsters. pretty much required if you’re going to be a hipster to be angry at the world.
That wasn’t the question, how about– I stumbled across the old thread, and was curious as to how the influx of turb/hipster outsiders prompted by the CP/blogosphere action had affected the alumni representation on the site.
Has there been a spike in typical “turbo” colleges or myriad Brown, Reed, Oberlin, Chicago hipster breeding grounds?
Can we all agree that college was A WHILE AGO for most of us and that if you have to cling to your undergraduate roots to make yourself cool, well, that is pretty lame
shut up. you all sound like morons arguing over what school is better. they’re all pretty much top tier, not ivys, but most of the people we know went to decent schools. get the f over it and get back to work or get a damn hobby. what are you people? bored?
yes, I an bored, hungover, and avoiding work and it will bite me in the ass monday, but on monday I won’t feel like a trashcan.
Sounds like some people didn’t go to very good colleges. As I storm up the corporate ladder, I will never forget my roots at a top tier institution and I will likely never hire anyone who didn’t go to a top 20 school.
well i went to jmu
Tell that to the chairman of lehman brothers and the CEO of Exxon, just to name a few mr. “ivy league”
I’d keep that a secret.
I agree, people who say it doesn’t matter where you went to college tend to be those who went to shitty schools
What the hell are you responding to?
Simple questions, and without judgement with respect to schools.
Everybody knows the colleges that most people on LNS are from (early and later.) Fairly narrow swath of institutions, by and large.
Nobody is arguing about which shool is better,
but rather if and how the recent attention and presumable registration spike has broadened and/or re-distributed/supplanted the schools that are most often associated w/ LNS.
If you’re not bored, and are that worried about “getting back to work” you shouldn’t be reading, much less posting.
Judgement aside, I think generalizations about colleges with respect to politics/cultural profile is fair, and has nothing to do with percieved prestige or rankings. If you are that reluctant to talk about your school, I think you’re the insecure one.
I’m not saying it’s impossible to make something of yourself if you go to a non-top 20 school or if you show up to the U.S. with nothing but a shovel in your hand, but you are at a severe disadvantage unless you wield major connections.
GO HOKIES.
And I’d like you to realize that its insecure idiots like you that make ivy leaguers come off as assholes. I went to a top 10 school and find your comments tiresome and self absorbed. It’s your CV I’d throw in the bin—not a solid, intelligent guy who happened to go to Ann Arbor.
get your ass out of D.C. and you’ll realize that the great wealth being created in our nation today is by high technical and driven individuals, regardless of college education.
couldn’t have said it better. some people are smart, driven, hard working individuals who diddled around in high school, and/or don’t test well, then went to so called “shitty” schools, but are doing very well in their careers and lives in general, not bc of their diploma, but bc of their individual merits. i also know several people that went to to 20, top 30, top 50, whatever schools that are totally floundering. it really depends on the person
i have a better job than 99% of the people i know here and i went to a school that is not a top 30 anything…undergrad is way over rated. Sure you may have started with a higher salary but the fact that you cant interact socially is why i now have the better job at the end of year 2. I feel like the majority of these ivy leaguers dont have the common sense that it takes to really suceed…they will be working for me in 5 years.
I make more money and have more wives and smoke more cigarettes and have more political clout and went to a better school and am more honest even though this is an anonymous forum than 100% of the people on late night shots.
I really regret resurrecting this thread b/c everyone missed the point.
I think Ivy League’s point is probably obnoxious and unnecessary, but why is everyone so freaking defensive about this? If undergrad doesn’t matter, why do you spend so much time trying to rationalize?
That is an equally foolish thing to say. It isn’t one way or the other. Ivy Leaguers are generally very successful. There are lots of nerds everywhere and arguing that because you did well in High school and on your SAT’s makes you a loser shows a serious lack of logic and frankly not many of these so called social skills you claim to have. Quit being bitter you went to JMU and ivy leaguer quit resting on the laurels your parents obviously bought for you. I set the curve in your calc 101 class.
People who went to Chapel Hill/Virginia/Vanderbilt have the dual distinction of having gone to a good school and likely having passable social skills. Does that mean they are way above you on the corporate ladder?
anyone who went to JMU is or has ever been bitter about it.
please delete your lns account
don’t 90% of you working on the hill make sub 50k sitting around answering fucking phones all day. Get a real job where what you learned in college and social skills really matter.
Treating college like a trade school is for poor people… aka business majors. It’s called an education, not job training.
I have never worked on the hill, never will and will never be involved in politics, but I think it’s probably time we moved past this whole notion that working on the Hill is a bad job. Very few people under the age of 25, whether they have a godo job or not, are doing anything productive at work on a daily basis. And it’s just kind of ignorant to claim that most of these people making no money now won’t have great opportunities sooner rather than later. I respect the fact that they’re living like paupers with the long term in mind.
I don’t know why all you turbos have to be hating on JMU. Go Dukes! I make $53K a year, and I’m only 24. Go Dukes! I have a friend from UVA who only makes $50K a year. Did you ever think of THAT???? Probably not.
I hadn’t thought of that.
My GF went to Radford. I’m kind of embarrassed b/c I’m UVA. Does that matter?
You are such white trash you dukie. You have no breeding or education which is shown by your tasteless and irrelevant comparison. My coke dealer makes six figures, where does he stand in your social hierarchy?
Dude, just make sure you wear a rubber
I went to duke and I loved it! It’s a work hard play hard school that’s ranked in the top 10 above a number of Ivy’s. (Granted I left before the lax scandal, so some things on campus may have changed.) I believe having the Duke degree has really helped me get my foot in the door for interviews.
Jesus christ– how did you get in? Reading comprehension obviously not a strong suit. Pretty sure “dukie” was chastising the JMU Duke above…
what about tulane? i mean, if you went there and made it out alive, it says a lot
Martini went to Tulane and is running a spider fund, so it’s a bit ignorant to claim you can’t do great things with that degree.
Go ‘Gate
Pretty sure the value of every Tulane alums degree was boosted exponentially the day Swayze recieved his diploma.
sooo if I went to JMU for undergrad and am deciding between UVA or Georgetown for my MBA. Where does that put me?
By the way…I read what was said earlier…definitely not bitter about going to JMU…quit hating on a school that you know nothing about.
I’m saying this as a Georgetown alum, and if you choose McDonough over UVA you’re a tard.
(Unless you were going to do some sort of night/weekend program and keep working…)
What about Mason? It wuz so kewl and phun there!
Yes, yes…and I don’t know much about the Gulag system either. But I DO know something about JMU: everyone on here that talks about that wretched institution has terrible reasoning skills and childlike writing.
It puts you as an outlier. The only thing most of my friends got from JMU was herpes from really hot girls.
Everyone I know who went to JMU loved it, including me. You all don’t even know what you are talking about. Most people I know(including myself) will instantly deny a kid who keeps bringing up his ivy league or top tier education. Just because your daddy had the connects and the $$$ doesn’t mean shit. 90% of business is understanding people and you top-tier anti social hacks should just stick to entertaining eachother in your stuck up bubble. Honestly you all are just jealous cuz JMU is 70% female and you got no butt at your top 50 school. F-Off I make more money as a 22 year old JMU grad than all my friends including ivy leaguers and top 50 school attendees, and i made all my connections myself so suck my D***
You’ll deny the ivy leaguer what? A honda civic from your rental car lot?
These responses all reek of insecurity
You all are morons… I went to the University of the District of Colombia for 2 years and I drive a 745i and make over 235k a year. It’s all about social skills, jerks.
Who uses phrases like “got no butt?” Gross and trashtastic. Thanks for the laughs.
Is anyone else envisioning this JMU guy slamming his keyboard inside the Avis rental trailer.
I got plenty of butt– but I also came down to H’burg to consort with JMU sorosititutes on a regular basis.
awesome post
Hahaha wow…I don’t know I would word it the way JMU did, but I do agree. This is a redundant topic. I like to compare this to TURBO vs TUCKERs.
I do not care what school you went to nor do I want to sit around and talk of the good ol days at Harvard as if I was a smalltown football player trying to relive my dreams in the 80s. I am just not interested, and you bore me.
I love JMU, however, I am 2 years out and moving on…I do not need to fall back on my degree as if I cannot hold a conversation.
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If your girlfriend went to Radford, you may want to look into some sort of bleaching agent for your johhnson. That college is like one big petri dish.
avis trailer comment above was excellent.
JMU grads are extremely insecure about their college. They may wind up doing decent things career wise, but no one proudly says “I went to JMU”. What type of appropriate framing wood do you get for that diploma? Cedar from used pencils?
matter what your salary is 2-4 years out of college… it matters your influence and salary 10 years out.
I’ve got two words for all of you clowns who think no one from JMU has ever accomplished anything notable. Aris. Pappas.
I went to JMU and besides the women and 3 or 4 friends, I regret every second of it.
The gentleman that invented the hooka shell necklace flies private now thanks to the JMU male population.
I went to Florida State, I don’t make shit, and I can’t even find my diploma. That being said I had an awesome time with a whole shit ton of really hot girls and tons of booze! I am now in the process of applying to business school and in the long run I will win.
Gary Clark…I’m calling bullshit on you.
Can we get an update on Pat Mitchell’s career development. Could be an interesting case study.
Yale over Harvard and Princeton. Gothic over Georgian. Secret societies over supper clubs. Frats over effete Finals Clubs.
Founded in 1701 when all your ancestors were in Europe. Last three presidents were educated there. Steve Schwarzman and Eddie Lampert — two of the Wall Street Dream Team’s starting five — went to undergrad there. The women could have been better, but let’s be honest, if the best-looking tail you ever hauled down was in school, aren’t you like a pathetic Al Bundy?
Yale trains future leaders in the political, business and tail-getting worlds. Look at Winnie Lord. ‘Nuff said.
keep telling yourself that. I’m hoping that was a joke. The only people who go to FSU that amount to anything are the ones catching and tackling in the NFL.
If you could get that pencil out of your ass…maybe I would’ve framed my diploma with it.
Do me a favor…quit breathing.
I agree that Yale is an exellent school. However, according to US News & World Report, it ranks No. 1 in aggravated same-sex shower rapes. Clearly this is a black mark.
I will own you.
Bullshit in what sense?
Pat Mitchell is alive and well. Currently dominating the Rucker Park Summer League.
True story, I done seen it.
Oh JMU. So bitter. So full of excuses and promises for the future that will not be realized.
This taunting is done in vain, however I imagine you have very little social interaction….therefore I will excuse it.
Your two sentences on a chat forum are not God’s gift of wisdom. Proclaiming that your school superceeds JMU means nothing to me.
You may be over me, but academically, financially, and socially you are under me.
Ivy league grads somehow always find a way to drop into any convo with anyone the fact they graduated ivy, really lame, Esp. Harvard grads, they drop Hbombs everywhere. And it’s I went to HBS, HLS, etc for the grad students. Most of them make less money than me so I don’t really care.
As for Duke, the only thing good to come out of that school is Bobby Hurley. The women are ugly, Durham is dangerous, the campus safety runs around getting everyone in trouble.
UNC from what I understand takes 85% in state students per class, so out of state is very hard, especially considering in that out of state quota includes ALL the out of state atheletes, and we know how many that is, ZING.
Never heard of Vandy as being very difficult, but whatever.
JMU = just missed UVA
i\’m suprised half of you people went to college at all..holy shit..good thing you\’re posting here instead of wearing out your meager intellects at office jobs…
Man. I thought I was gonna read some obvious statements like “Computer science PhD degrees are NOT in the scene in DC. Worthless!” and hear y’all ragging on funny graduate degrees.
Who cares where you went to college?
Are you the kid that Deadwood tabletopped at late night and shortly thereafter/beforehand deemed you unworthy of taking Nettune’s old room? Because that was funny.
I find it hilarious that most of the same people who are making fun of the posters on the “For Poor People” thread who get outraged and claim that hard work and integrity count more than money, are themselves trying to make the exact same arguments when the tables are turned and we make fun of their shitty colleges. I don’t care if the school is public or private, some schools suck, others don’t. Apparently there are some things money can’t buy. My proof? The fact that there seem to be an overwhelming number of people on this site who went to “X Day School” who ended up at Roanoke College, Dickinson, Louisiana State (wtf?) and any other random schools I’m forgetting. You’re dumb, get over it. Sweet boat shoes.
Agreed. Some schools are good, some are not. If you’re poor and stupid, your parents couldn’t afford to get you into a good school. If you’re rich and stupid you might be able to get into Hamtpon Sidney or Gettsburg. If you’re rich and smart you’ll go to Dartmouth, Yale, Harvard, Princeton, Duke, or Georgetown, Stanford.
i am a firm believer in the fact that if you get the grades, learn the material (at least in graduate school–Undgrad i didnt learn a thing) and have a decent head on your shoulders, people will recognize it in the business world….unfortunately the name of the degree granting institution will not “pop” on a resume but fuck it….suck it up and move on… i know/ have worked alongside plenty of turbonic fuck-o’s that went to columbia/ princeton/ harv and were ineffectual, narcissistic and genrally useless …. maybe that’s my “kumbayah” side speaking b/c I have gone/am going to anything BUT ivy undergrad/law institutions
Ivy League, Duke, UNC, Vandy, UVA, W&L frat wizards have infiltrated my town with their croakies, sperrys, and foresight that vineyards vines ties are becoming passe…curses!
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I'm just confused by the poster using the name "Shirley Tilghman". Shirley Tilghman is the name of the president of Princeton (possible spelling mistakes aside) and, while I have no idea how good a job she's done as president, Dr. Tilghman was an exceptionally highly-respected scientist and National Academy member before accepting the post.
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